Hillary Gets Stiffed - Obama Never Even Vetted Her

Thank Jebus.

I was expecting this news.

I'm putting my flack jacket and helmet on because the fall out will soon begin.

Did Obama make a mistake for the Dems with this decision?

I never thought Hillary would accept second in command, anyway.

"She was never vetted," a Democratic official reported

Neither was Obama...

This is old news.

Waynester
Neither was Obama...

... Why would he be?

Normally that would be the media's job, but they were too busy swooning...

Perhaps so, but it has to be pretty galling to her and her cohort to have it announced pubicly that she wasn't even ever considered seriously.

Without a doubt.

Waynester
Normally that would be the media's job, but they were too busy swooning...

What are you talking about? How is that connected to this article?

As Karl Rove on Foxnews just stated, "this is a serious mistake Obama made by not choosing HC. If he had, it would have been a brilliant move on his part". If Obama loses, it's because he deserves it. He has listened to the wrong people, including his wife, that the Clintons come with too much baggage. Again I question his judgement as to what is good for this country. Those 9 million HC supporters that moved to support BO should get irate about his ignorance and vote for McCain. He can kiss this presidential election GOOD-BY.

I'm sorry, you bring up Karl Rove talking about democratic policy, if Rove said it was wrong for the democratics I must think it was the right thing to do. Rove is a republican to the core and if it good for the democratics it must be bad for the republicans.

If Rove wants HRC o;n the ticket you can bet he has a good reason, and it is not to benefit the Democratics.

I'm a registered democrat and it pains me to think that we will lose this election because of not picking Hillary as VP. It would be a shoo in for the ticket, especially with HC's 18 million supporters. McCain's gaining ground, and she would have made the ticket an unstoppable, dynamic duo.

As Karl Rove on Foxnews just stated, "this is a serious mistake Obama made by not choosing HC. If he had, it would have been a brilliant move on his part".

And the Democrats should listen to Rove, who wants a Republican victory, why, exactly? If you are quoting Rove to justify Hillary, you are at the bottom of the barrel.

Rove is just trying to stir the pot with the Clinton Democrats. His goal is to divide the party. Don't fall for it.

Clinton's only baggage is the organized crime within the Republican party. They just wont stop trying to destroy Clinton WHO IS THE BEST PRESIDENT AMERICA HAS EVER HAD.

Youre just sourgraping that Clinton wasnt republican. Serves you right for running an country club presidential campaign.

BIG OUCH, it is like he back handed her and slapped her out of the way! This is really too bad because she deserved betetr treatment than thism even if he never planned to ask her, but that is the way the Chicago Pol plays the game, hardline, hardnose and hardcore! He (BHO) will look back at the history of his failed campaign after McCain wins and wonder how he could have been so stupid not to ask HRC to be hs VP. How could he have been so stupid not to unite the party, swallow his ego and pride and accept that a divided party cannot beat the Republicans. So far so good for the McCain team, especially if he picks Pawlenty or Romney.

How to vet Hillary Clinton in three easy steps:

1. go to http://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/civilCaseSummary/index.asp?CaseType=Civil

2. Type in this CASE NUMBER at the bottom of the page : BC304174, click Search.

3. Review list of parties in pending fraud case.

Do you think this would never come up in a campaign against McCain?

Ditto and may I add Boo Hoo!

PASSED OVER

PASSED OVER

A real pot stirrer of a spot. Wouldn't it be worse if she was the VP candidate? Lucy Hillary, you got some 'splainin to do!

Why would do everyone acts so surprised? If you was paying attention to the answer he gave she wasn't going to be her on his list.

Commentator- Question: Would you pick HRC as your running mate.
Obama -Answer: HRC would be on anybody's short list.

He never said HRC WOULD BE ON HIS LIST it couldn't be any clearer.

Ooooh, resentment, resentment, let's fan resentment!

I think that the real Hillary supporters are hip to your little game, guys. That leaves only the Hillaristas, the fake supporters who are more interested in getting Republicans in power.

I don't know of many self-proclaimed Democrats who actually want the presumed nominee defeated. Why can't the PUMA folks understand that there was a fairly democratic process involved in choosing the nominee. Also, has everyone completely forgotten about the Republican foaming at the mouth when it comes to Bill Clinton?

lol as if your feelings where in doubt.
Still I would watch the indirect threats.. even if they are very indirect.

Democracy in action!
I love it when they televise the Korean parliament fist-fighting.
That is politcal freedom.

Bring it on!

I hope they pat down Hillary.

She'll be chewing explosive lozenges.

Do we want to encourage MORE falsehoods from our politicos? Doing a sham vetting is what we want?

isn't there a protocol for choosing a VP.

There is a floor protocol for noninations:
Per DNC rules for floor nomination, note these apply to both Presidential and VP nominations.

Nomination of the Democratic Candidate for President: The Permanent Chair shall receive nominations from the floor for the Democratic candidate for the Office of President of the United States in the following manner:

a. Requests to nominate a presidential candidate shall be in writing and shall have affixed thereto the written approval of the proposed nominee and the name of the individuals who shall be recognized to make the nominating and seconding speeches on behalf of a presidential candidate and shall be delivered to the Convention Secretary at a location as specified by the Secretary no later than 6:00 p.m. of the day preceding the day designated for the commencement of presidential nominations.

b. Each such request must be accompanied by a petition indicating support for the proposed nominee signed by delegates representing not less than 300 or more
than 600 delegate votes, not more than 50 of which may come from one (1) delegation. A delegate may not sign more than one (1) nominating petition for president and for vice president.

c. The order for nominating presidential candidates shall be determined by the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee, the Permanent Chair of the Convention and each presidential candidate, or his or her authorized representative, who qualifies to be nominated pursuant to this section.

d. Each presidential candidate shall be allowed a total of twenty (20) minutes for the presentation of his or her name in nomination by nominating and seconding speeches, the time to run without interruption from the recognition of the nominator.

e. Delegates and alternates shall maintain order during and following nominations for the Office of President and demonstrations shall not be permitted.

So if Clinton supports want here they can nominate her. Supers will be VERY reluctant to not vote for a dream ticket when many face re-election back home.

The National Inquirer came out and just said Obama's wife told him not to do it. (Yes, I was bored while checking out at Walmart).

And, since he considers his wife his number 1 adviser, there just might be something to it. If so, then I guess neither Bill or Obama are wearing the pants in the family.

I do have to watch falling into operation chaos's trap and not attack the Hilary or her supporters.. but instead attack the gop machine that set this into motion and attack the idea of changing nominees or the idea that she is more electable without giving the right too much ammo.

it really isnt hard to stoke the fires of discontent, you simply plant someone that screams unfair and someone in the crowd will say "hey I agree with him".. and it builds
we all saw rush start this.. live.
we know many of the pumas were mccain supporters in 2000
it's not a stretch to think they are all laughing while playing the dems for fools.(me included)
Look at the coulter's of the world.. they know how to get people riled.

Still I honestly think a unity ticket would be a mccain win, due to some of the mud republican'ts have left over from the Bill Clinton days.

What an insightful comment!!!

HAHA! Wellllll, it may not be too insightful but it's still a good question. What is the big deal? Where are all the other people complaining that they weren't vetted? This is really beginning to sound like Clinton is a sore loser. I'm tired of hearing about her now. Shut up and run again in 4 years. She's only hurting herself.

Shut up and run again in 4 years.

That's only an option if McCain wins; thus the internal conflict.

Nah, if Obama gets in and winds up being a terrible prez she'll get her chance in '12. Even if he does fine, she'd be stupid to not run again.

He would have to be pretty damn bad to lose the Party's support for re-election. Even Jimmy Carter had it.

Neither Party allows challenges to a sitting President (who is also the head of the Party), it just isn't done. She would have to a third party candidate; not a viable option.

Hillary should be in first place and maybe she would have considered BO for the VP. However, Barack and the media stole the nomination from her. I hope they live to regret their bias towards Hillary. What ever happened to fairness? The media is full of hate mongers towards the Clintons. Obama can't measure up to commander-in-chief with out her.

However, Barack and the media stole the nomination from her.

Ah, you're one of the "Hillary was entitled to win!" crowd.

Yes!!! Hillary is entitled to win the oval office. She comes with more knowledge, supporters(remember she won the populace vote) experience, better ideas to solve the problems, equal rights for working women, and much more. People can't wait to see and hear her at the convention. She brings life to a great "party". Obama's rhetoric is the same old boring, zillion promises to "CHANGE". I thought any newly elected president will promote change. People treat "change" if it were the new million dollar word in the dic. There are so many blind Obamamaians that can't see that the ticket needs Hillary to restore America's good reputation around the world.

No one is entitled to be president. You are the one marching blindly, with an entitlement complex for your candidate.

I can see very clearly. I can Obama leading us into diaster.

Huh? You forgetting about Reagan in '76 or Teddy Kennedy in '80 or Pat Buchanan in '92?

My bad I should've said it just isn't done successfully, at least not in recent memory.
How close did any of them come, Bill?

Yes, but consider how much stronger a candidate Reagan was and the fact that Ford wasn't considered a true incumbent. An actual incumbent with four years to consolidate power within the party is formidable indeed. It's not what HRC would want to face in four years.
Hilliary Clinton is being asked to do something neither she nor Bill have ever done. Put Party ahead of their own quest for power.

HAHA! Wellllll, it may not be too insightful but it's still a good question. What is the big deal? Where are all the other people complaining that they weren't vetted?

You are right! Actually, I regretted that comment after thinking about it...Hillary has been nothing if publicly vetted in microscopic detail by every 'pundit' in the country since 1996. There's nothing left to vet with her, unless he needs to know the color of her panties.

you never wwhat vp that might outshine you..and not saying Hillary would but bill would try.

This "people" don't know that. Neither would I be comfortable with a politician already looking to 2012. Undercut, undercut, undercut. How can she support "my oppenent". The way she ran her csmpaign does not speak well of "getting things done"

I am willing to risk a slightly less "best chance" of Obama getting to the White House. Getting there is a smaller risk that staying there with Hillary walking behind every day.

There is that percentage that wouldn't vote for Obama no matter what...and that is OK. But if Hillary plainly said "don't do all this mess on my behalf or in my name, i lost fair and square" we wouldn't have the drama we have now...whether she actually supported Obama after the fact or not. Its what she HASN'T said that keeps all this going on and they do appear to be snickering in the corner watching the party squirm.

I think he has extended them every courtesy and then some. And I don't think it would be ego that would allow him to NOT pick her, because doing so shows he can be extorted and would weaken him even more than losing.--The Republicans don't fear her on the ticket, they'd eat that up 25hrs a day.

I'm not so sure...Mr...Hillary on the ticket could go either way. Just about everything there is to know about her is already out there. But with her attitude since the nominations toward Mr. Obama, she may have burned her own bridges behind her as far as him selecting her. Had she been more supportive of him, she might have had a better chance of being selected. Then even if Mr. Obama gets two terms she'd still be young enough to run on her own and can show even more experience in the White House.

To her credit she has done more than most have been asked to do, but she also did more damage than any other before. If the 15-30% that one candidate got wanted to play difficult, you would try to bring them back in, but that number in itself makes them self-aware that their person wasn't going to win. In her case, it was down the middle, and she hasn't relinquished it, so that makes them hold on, and it still matters.--Which is why I say should have put her foot down much earlier.

How much more support could she have done without slobbering all over Obama. She gave a very eloquent speech throwing her full support behind him. She would have done more, if they had included her in the planning. No, the camp treated her like she was the plague. Obama deserves to lose.

This is NOT HRC's doing, so don't hold any grudge against her, and do not belittle her tremendous showing in all the Democratic Primaries. BHO only won because he cornered the less democratic and less open caucus methods in a very shrewd and professional way, the way the Chicago machine does it. Like it or not, it worked well for him because HRC forgot to work the caucuses. Tomorrow, it will all be history. Nuff said?

Amen! MRZK....I agree 100%. She needs to get over it and act like a grownup.

That was the exact point that was made in the primaries...she has been ULTRA-vetted. She herself said that "all her baggage has been out for inspection for years".

I still believe that at present there is no there there in Hillarity's background. BJ's financial rendezvous with Burkle et al wouldn't hurt her. even the Dubai involvement. For further reading... A>

Uh...further reading: http://smashedfrog.blogspot.com/2008/03/hillary-clintons-tax-return.html

That they are, Bill, but I do not think Hillarity is as politically naive as, let's say, John Edwards was.

She has run the gauntlet of political inquisitions and the Burkle connection to BJ wouldn't have gotten in her way at all. She had planned on this run for a long time and her previous experiences with vetting (remember Kimba Wood, Lani Guinier and the rest) made her savvy to the process.

It's convenient for Hillary that O loses the election, he will be back in the Senate and she is free to run in 2012.

How do you know she hates Obama? Maybe her husband does. The negatives HC said during the primaries about BO were a campaign strategy. Any way, surprisingly, they were true.

I guess you are right. She will out shine Obama and she's smarter than he is.

Pancha, all of your posts are so silly! Based on what is she smarter? Did she graduate from Harvard Law School Magna Cum Laude? She is not more qualified, more experienced or smarter. The facts are that Obama has had 8 years in the Illinois Senate and 4 years in the U.S. Senate. Hillary was MARRIED to the President, that does not make her qualified. She has LESS experience than Obama in politics, she has only been at her NY Senate position for nearly 4 years; it's a fact!

Jonymc, you need to watch more Foxnews. Your way off base.

I'm surprised he didn't send instant messages thru myspace...

luckydog,

Yes and No.

It goes back to that very personal one on one conversation bet O and Hillary.

Deceiving is on the air and this is why my cell is off because when O announces his VP it will be old news and for sure I am not getting a text messae.

Unfortujnately, that may happen. But if it does happen, do you want a hot headed Biden, easy going Bayh, or inexperience Kaine. My choice would be Hillary. She knows what decicion to make at 3a.m.

LOL!! How would you know? Have you been with her at 3 a.m.? Hilarious!!

Joe Biden......fine w/me, one seat less in the US Senate.

Hillary Clinton for V.P? Depends in all that the Clintons are ready to be quiet.

The only "depends" are the ones McCain will be wearing in a few years

but any other choice will raise more questions than answers and the fact is there is no time left to be answering new questions

Like in school a tummy ache is a viable excuse. There is always time for answering questions.

How's the kool-aid?

Show me the sewage...

Obama was born on August 4, 1961, at the Kapiolani Medical Center in Honolulu, Hawaii, to Barack Obama, Sr., a Black Kenyan of Nyang'oma Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya, and Ann Dunham, a White American from Wichita, Kansas. His parents met while attending the University of Hawaii at Manoa, where his father was a foreign student.[4] They separated when he was two years old and later divorced.[5] Obama's father returned to Kenya and saw him only once more before dying in an automobile accident in 1982.[6] After her divorce, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, and the family moved to Soetoro's home country of Indonesia in 1967, where Obama attended local schools in Jakarta until he was ten years old. He then returned to Honolulu to live with his maternal grandparents while attending Punahou School from the fifth grade in 1971 until his graduation from high school in 1979.[7] Obama's mother returned to Hawaii in 1972 for several years and then back to Indonesia for her fieldwork. She died of ovarian cancer in 1995.[8]

Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years.[9] He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations.[10] Obama graduated with a B.A. from Columbia in 1983, then worked for a year at the Business International Corporation[11] and then at the New York Public Interest Research Group.[12][13]

After four years in New York City, Obama moved to Chicago to work as a community organizer for three years from June 1985 to May 1988 as director of the Developing Communities Project (DCP), a church-based community organization originally comprising eight Catholic parishes in Greater Roseland (Roseland, West Pullman, and Riverdale) on Chicago's far South Side.[12][14] During his three years as the DCP's director, its staff grew from 1 to 13 and its annual budget grew from $70,000 to $400,000, with accomplishments including helping set up a job training program, a college preparatory tutoring program, and a tenants' rights organization in Altgeld Gardens.[15] Obama also worked as a consultant and instructor for the Gamaliel Foundation, a community organizing institute.[16] In mid-1988, he traveled for the first time to Europe for three weeks then Kenya for five weeks where he met many of his Kenyan relatives for the first time.[17]

Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988 and at the end of his first year was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review based on his grades and a writing competition.[18] In his second year he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the law review's staff of 80 editors.[19] Obama's election in February 1990 as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review was widely reported and followed by several long, detailed profiles.[19] He graduated with a J.D. magna cum laude from Harvard in 1991 and returned to Chicago where he had worked as a summer associate at the law firms of Sidley & Austin in 1989 and Hopkins & Sutter in 1990.[18][20]

The publicity from his election as the first black president of the Harvard Law Review led to a contract and advance to write a book about race relations.[21] In an effort to recruit him to their faculty, the University of Chicago Law School provided Obama with a fellowship and an office to work on his book.[21] He originally planned to finish the book in one year, but it took much longer as the book evolved into a personal memoir. In order to work without interruptions, Obama and his wife, Michelle, traveled to Bali where he wrote for several months. The manuscript was finally published as Dreams from My Father in mid-1995.[21]

Community activism, teaching and law firm work

Obama directed Illinois Project Vote from April to October 1992, a voter registration drive with a staff of 10 and 700 volunteers that achieved its goal of registering 150,000 of 400,000 unregistered African Americans in the state, leading Crain's Chicago Business to name Obama to its 1993 list of "40 under Forty" powers to be.[22][23]

Obama taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School for twelve years, as a Lecturer for four years (1992–1996), and as a Senior Lecturer for eight years (1996–2004).[24]

In 1993 Obama joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 12-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004, with his law license becoming inactive in 2002.[12][25]

Obama was a founding member of the board of directors of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife, Michelle, became the founding executive director of Public Allies Chicago in early 1993.[12][26] He served on the board of directors of the Woods Fund of Chicago, which in 1985 had been the first foundation to fund Obama's DCP, from 1993–2002, and served on the board of directors of The Joyce Foundation from 1994–2002.[12] Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999.[12] He also served on the board of directors of the Chicago Lawyers' Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, the Center for Neighborhood Technology, and the Lugenia Burns Hope Center.[12]

State legislator, 1997–2004

Obama was elected to the Illinois Senate in 1996, succeeding State Senator Alice Palmer as Senator from the 13th District, which then spanned Chicago South Side neighborhoods from Hyde Park-Kenwood south to South Shore and west to Chicago Lawn.[27] Once elected, Obama gained bipartisan support for legislation reforming ethics and health care laws.[28] He sponsored a law increasing tax credits for low-income workers, negotiated welfare reform, and promoted increased subsidies for childcare.[29] In 2001, as co-chairman of the bipartisan Joint Committee on Administrative Rules, Obama supported Republican Governor Ryan's payday loan regulations and predatory mortgage lending regulations aimed at averting home foreclosures,[30] and in 2003, Obama sponsored and led unanimous, bipartisan passage of legislation to monitor racial profiling by requiring police to record the race of drivers they detained and legislation making Illinois the first state to mandate videotaping of homicide interrogations.[29][31]

Obama was reelected to the Illinois Senate in 1998, and again in 2002.[32] In 2000, he lost a Democratic primary run for the U.S. House of Representatives to four-term incumbent Bobby Rush by a margin of two to one.[33][34]

In January 2003, Obama became chairman of the Illinois Senate's Health and Human Services Committee when Democrats, after a decade in the minority, regained a majority.[35] During his 2004 general election campaign for U.S. Senate, police representatives credited Obama for his active engagement with police organizations in enacting death penalty reforms.[36] Obama resigned from the Illinois Senate in November 2004 following his election to the US Senate.[37]

Whatever would the Republicans do if they couldn't raise abortion as an issue or call Democrats Marxists?

carson you forgot ritual goat sacrifice, pissing on the alamo, beating up senior citizens, eating meat on fridays, tearing the labels of his mattress, doing bong hits with ozzy, toad licking, cheating on his drivers test, being pregnant with bigfoot"s baby, being a direct descendant of hitler and about 5 million other things that are not true. come on alittle creativity people this isn't just anybody's reputation where trying to trash.

Yes and we all know how reliable wikipedia (which you should have credited and linked) is for exhaustive investigation. I didn't see anything about Bill Ayers or Bernandine Dorhn or Jeremiah Wright or Black liberation theology or the Marxist professors he was so enamored of at Harvard or his troubling votes on the anti-infanticide bill in Illinois. Or how he stayed out of a bi-partisan fight to bring down a corrupt Chicago(Cook County) machine Yep that wikipedia is the last word. Here's another perspective.
Or you could read David Freddoso's book The Case Against Barack Obama: The Unlikely Rise and Unexamined Agenda of the Media's Favorite Candidate

David Freddoso doesn't like Obama. Considering that Freddoso is a neocon, is this a surprise? The amazing thing would be if Freddoso has said something even mildly supportive of Obama.

That Freddoso isn't aligned politically with Obama or the Democrats doesn't mean the things he highlights in the book aren't true. He learned his craft under the tutelage of Robert Novak and is a lot more credible than Corsi. If all you want is positive spin stick with wikipedia or the Obama website.That a critical examination would be treated like blasphemy is disturbing to me.

That Freddoso is aligned with the anti-Obama forces makes it more likely that he's lying, or at least shading the truth, about Obama. As for being taught by Robert Novak, that's not a strong credential for objectivity either. Regnery Publishing, who published Novak's newsletter, was also the Swift Boat Veterans' publisher.

If a senile angry old man is I think either Hillary or Biden would do a wonderful job.