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How Fannie -- And You -- Bought a Hapless House

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. . .The most recent owner, Phyllis High Jones, refinanced the house through Countrywide Home Loans in 2006, taking out a $208,000 mortgage that would gradually inflate to $226,000. That same year, Fannie Mae bought the loan from Countrywide. Then the housing market collapsed in Prince William County. Jones defaulted this year. The townhouse went up for auction, but there were no takers. Fannie Mae had no choice but to become the buyer of record -- sale price $226,000.

"Unfortunately, I got a bad loan," she said. She said it was a "negative amortization" loan. After a year of making her payments, she realized that the principal was increasing rather than decreasing.

"I should have educated myself more, and I didn't," she said.

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{"commentId":3196648,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

This borrower simply should have called Sens. Chris Dodd and Kent Conrad for a "Friends of Angelo" sweetheart mortgage. Nothing to see here now folks regarding Democrats corrupt influence on the mortgage giants. Let's move on.

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  • 5 votes
Reply#1 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:15 AM EDT
{"commentId":3199936,"authorDomain":"Catch22"}

Nice irrelevant parstisan swipe. Not surprising the you seize such picayune slurs and that you ignore that the leading recipients of lobbyist money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac through political action committees went to Republicans. Not surprising that you ignore the GOP effort that fundamenatlly changed these mortage gaints.

BTW: Did you notice how this has absolutely nothing to do with the CRA?

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#1.1 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
{"commentId":3202020,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

All of this has everything to do with the CRA for those not completely blinded by their idolatry of people who would use a form of government blackmail to extort money from financial institutions so they can pay off their political cronies like those frauds at ACORN who figured prominently in the rise of community organizer now deemed by the illiterati to be the savior of his nation. That is, of course, unless you consider Countrywide not to have been part of the problem in this crisis. The minority grievance lobbyists at Fannie Mae whose direct contributions have always gone predominantly to Democrats and crooks like Dodd even went out of their way to praise Countrywide in this 2000 document entitled "Making New Mortgage Markets: Case Studies of Institutions, Home Buyers, and Communities" (PDF) from the Fannie Mae "foundation":

A majority of Countrywide's mortgage loans are sold to Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, or Ginnie Mae. About 36 percent of the loans go to Ginnie Mae, 48 percent to Fannie Mae, and the balance go to jumbo, nonconforming, and other investors. Countrywide typically retains the servicing rights to mortgages it sells in the secondary market.
Of the approximately 494,000 loans made by Countrywide in 1998, about 12 percent
were made to "designated minorities"—that is black, Hispanic, or Native American borrowers.

The minority share is fairly consistent among loans of differing sizes; in other
words, loans to minorities are not exclusively small loans. The percentage of ountrywide's home purchase loans made to minorities has increased dramatically since 1992. In 1992, only 8 percent of purchase loans went to designated minorities. This figure rose to 9 percent in 1993, and in 1998, the figure increased to 15 percent. According to 1998 HMDA data, although Countrywide is the second largest mortgage lender in the country, it is the largest lender to the Hispanic market.

From a geographic perspective, Countrywide's purchase originations have increasingly come from minority and low-income neighborhoods.3 In 1993, only 3,671 purchase originations were made in minority neighborhoods and only 3,748 in low-income neighborhoods. In 1994, the numbers rose to 10,633 and 10,940, respectively; in 1995, to 11,458 and 12,176; and in 1998, to 17,878 and 21,169. The gains in loan share for minority and low-income households and neighborhoods came after the initiation of the House America program in 1992 (discussed in detail later).

Countrywide also services loans. Its servicing portfolio included roughly 2.1 million loans, worth nearly $215 billion, in FY 1999—up from only 280,000 loans in 1992. Countrywide mortgage loan servicing uses highly automated systems and generates a servicing fee of 0.25 percent to 0.50 percent per year on the unpaid principal balance of each loan. The servicing function is performed through two facilities, one in California and one in Texas.

Because it is not a federally insured depository, Countrywide is not subject to the federal
regulation for fair housing performance, although HUD has the ability to examine
any apparent fair lending violation that it might suspect. Instead, Countrywide is regulated
in various states by state departments of real estate. The regulations are primarily
financial, however, and do not usually address fair lending issues. Countrywide
is required to report HMDA data, but is not covered under the CRA. Nonetheless, on a
voluntary basis, Countrywide has pledged itself to be a leader in the affordable and
fair lending arena.

By making loans to people who shoudn't either have them or if so, have them only through traditional programs like FHA that have been around for decades, both Fannie, Freddie and Countrywide were trying to feather their own nests by increasing the borrowing pool:

Risks extend beyond banks and consumers to Washington-based Fannie Mae, which owned or guaranteed $340 billion of Alt-A mortgages in the second quarter, equal to about 11 percent of its total single-family mortgage credit book of business. The loans accounted for half of the company's second-quarter credit losses, according to a regulatory filing. Alt-A holdings at McLean, Virginia-based Freddie Mac were $190 billion, or 10 percent of its mortgages, in the second quarter, according to the company's Web site.

Fannie Mae said on Aug. 8 it won't accept any new Alt-A loans after Dec. 31.

While subprime home loans describe a type of borrower --those with bad or limited credit histories -- Alt-A, or Alternative A- paper, are shorthand for a type of loan developed in the mid- 1980s.

`No Doc' Push

Many Alt-A loans go to borrowers with credit scores higher than subprime and lower than prime, and carried lower interest rates than subprime mortgages.

So-called no-doc or stated-income loans, for which borrowers didn't have to furnish pay stubs or tax returns to document their earnings, were offered by lenders such as Greenpoint Mortgage and Citigroup Inc. to small business owners who might have found it difficult to verify their salaries.

Alt-A loans were used to expand home ownership among first- time buyers as prices climbed out of reach for many of them, according to Rick Sharga, executive vice president for marketing at RealtyTrac.

``To grow, the market had to embrace more borrowers, and the obvious way to do that was to move down the credit scale,'' said Guy Cecala, publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance. ``Once the door was opened, it was abused.''

There's so much dishonesty in the covering of this crisis it makes one's head spin.

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#1.2 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
{"commentId":3202850,"authorDomain":"Catch22"}
There's so much dishonesty in the covering of this crisis it makes one's head spin.

You are indeed spining with revisionist economics. The CRA had nothing to do with this lenders loan or bad choices. Zero. Nice try though.

Countrywide is required to report HMDA data, but is not covered under the CRA.

Yet you still blame the CRA funny that. This were business choices by Countrywide. Of course, you fail to present evidence that extending loans to minorities had anything to do with the current crisis. You just assume a causal connection.

Freddie and Countrywide were trying to feather their own nests by increasing the borrowing pool:

Yes indeed, which again has noting to do with the CRA and was a business choice. YOu do have an all too convenient ideological scape goat.

The facts just dont fit your theory, heck even your own quotes do not.

``To grow, the market had to embrace more borrowers, and the obvious way to do that was to move down the credit scale,'' said Guy Cecala, publisher of Inside Mortgage Finance. ``Once the door was opened, it was abused.''

That door opening and abuse again had nothing to do with the CRA. There have long been subprime mortgages, with or without the CRA people saw money to be made.

This is classic rhetoric of conservative reaction. (For fans of welfare policy, it is Charles Murray meets the mortgage mess.) Most analysts see the sub-prime crisis as a market failure. Believing the bubble would never pop, lenders approved risky adjustable-rate mortgages, often without considering whether borrowers could afford them; families took on those loans; investors bought them in securitized form; and, all the while, regulators sat on their hands. ...But CRA has always had critics, and they now suggest that the law went too far in encouraging banks to lend in struggling communities. Rhetoric aside, the argument turns on a simple question: In the current mortgage meltdown, did lenders approve bad loans to comply with CRA, or to make money?

The evidence strongly suggests the latter.

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#1.3 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:06 PM EDT
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{"commentId":3196709,"authorDomain":"savannahborn"}

I was a loan officer in Texas for a short while. I quit because I didn't want the bad loans on my conscience. It terrified me the way the banks were handing out loans. I just couldn't bring myself to play the system anymore.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:19 AM EDT
{"commentId":3197344,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

Savannah, when I was a mortgage loan guy with SunTrust (then Crestar) in the early '90s Fannie/Freddie didn't even have a negative am product. That's what I've been driving to home to some of these economic neophytes who insist this is all the fault of the securitizers on Wall Street. That's ludicrous.

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  • 6 votes
#2.1 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:01 AM EDT
{"commentId":3198421,"authorDomain":"wmolaw"}

Bill:

Pretty clear that the securitzers wouldn't purchase these loans if Freddie and Fannie wouldn't buy them, or give them its blessing.

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  • 3 votes
#2.2 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:00 AM EDT
{"commentId":3199155,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

The problem is that the crappy paper, i.e., non-traditional loan products given to borrowers with shaky credit and employment histories but made anyway because of 20% appreciation annually in collateral value, was mixed in with the A paper and with millions of mortgages making up these securities tranches there is no way to drill down through all of it loan by loan at the Wall Street level. That has to be done at the point of purchase on the secondary market, that is at Fannie and Freddie who control 70% of it.

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#2.3 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
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{"commentId":3197244,"authorDomain":"wmolaw"}

Bill:

Oh, come one. It is clearly a case of rapacious, republican, conservative banks using their corrupt influence to hornswoggle a poor consumer.

Of course, it's funny how so many people in Congress are not mentioning the fact that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac loosened their requirements in 99 so that more "minorities" and "low income" people could own homes.

Fannie Mae eases credit - 1999

Gee, wonder why they haven't mentioned that?

And the mortgage fraud that caused is unbelievable!

and now we all must pay for it.

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  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:55 AM EDT
{"commentId":3197502,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}

Let the good times roll....until they don't any more. Then point fingers.

That's our economic system these days.

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  • 2 votes
#3.1 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:10 AM EDT
{"commentId":3198440,"authorDomain":"wmolaw"}

Schnoo:

Yup.

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  • 2 votes
#3.2 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:00 AM EDT
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{"commentId":3197304,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

I'll tell you how stupid some of these media hacks are. Today on MorningJoe Obama cheerleader newsbunny Mika Brzezinski actually said with a straight face that Chris Dodd should be a prominent figure in any Obama economic team. I almost choked on my coffee on that one.

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  • 6 votes
Reply#4 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:59 AM EDT
{"commentId":3197578,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}

What I see are two clueless Presidential candidates. Most of what was said in the debate, by both of them, was peripheral to the Wall Street crisis, even though they were ostensibly addressing it.

But in the end, the blame goes to Wall Street greed and corruption. People weren't happy with profit levels, so they devised schemes , involving borrowing 30 or 40 times the worth of the company and placed it at high risk. As I understand this situation, this was essentially a Ponzi scheme that ended up requiring an ever rising level of 'credit default swaps (to cover the failing credit default swaps) and other immoral financial manipulations.

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    #4.1 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:14 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3198506,"authorDomain":"wmolaw"}

    John:

    When quasi governmental entities allow such actions, it is a problem.

    It is also a problem when, as you say, greedy son of a @!$%#es try to capitalize on what they know is not a good thing for the Country, or even their companies. The quick buck is what they were looking for, seeking.

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    #4.2 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:03 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3199081,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

    I'm fully willing to assign some share of the blame to the Wall Street securitizers but if you don't have the crap being shoveled into the system by the advocates for "affordable housing", i.e., Fannie and Freddie and their Democratic patrons none of this comes about.

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    • 6 votes
    #4.3 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3200062,"authorDomain":"Catch22"}
    advocates for "affordable housing",

    Affordable housing has nothing to do with getting loans you cant pay.

    Fannie and Freddie and their Democratic patrons none of this comes about.

    LOL. You always ignore the GOP patrons and the leading recipients of Fannie and Freddie PAC contributions. You ignore who fundamentallly changed the way these organizations do business.

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    #4.4 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
    {"commentId":3202224,"authorDomain":"JohnRussell"}
    I'm fully willing to assign some share of the blame to the Wall Street securitizers but if you don't have the crap being shoveled into the system by the advocates for "affordable housing", i.e., Fannie and Freddie and their Democratic patrons none of this comes about.

    More mortgages, more transactions, more commissions. The scheme devised by the investment bankers only worked as long as home values kept rising. Questionable mortgages were being 'guaranteed' against default by the ever increasing worth of the homes. In other words, the whole she bang was BASED and dependent on housing prices never dropping. Pure insanity, which was made palatable by record levels os transactions and commissions. Greed and corruption, and , as Jim Cramer says, people should be going to prison for this.

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      #4.5 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:39 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3202419,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

      I'm not ignoring them:

      Employees of the government-sponsored firms, which own or guarantee half of the nation's mortgages, have donated almost $4.3 million to federal elected officials and their various campaign committees since 2005.

      Obama is the largest individual recipient at about $112,000, federal campaign finance reports show.

      One reason Obama has collected the most is that he has raised far more than any other federal candidate, $390 million so far. The mortgage money has not influenced Obama's stands, a campaign aide said.

      The candidate has "consistently supported stepped-up regulation for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure that instead of rewarding speculators who relied on the government to reap massive profits, taxpayers and struggling homeowners are protected," the aide said.

      Republican nominee John McCain has taken $16,400 from Freddie and Fannie employees since 2005.

      Apparently you have McCain, who supported a 2005 bill that would have reigned in Fannie and Freddie but failed under the threat of a Democratic filibuster, confused with his campaign manager who isn't running for office and whose influence on McCain policy-wise would seem on this issue to be nil. Sorry.

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      • 6 votes
      #4.6 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:47 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3204478,"authorDomain":"juno"}

      Though I won't dispute that greed plays a role, I think we must also remember that there were strong-arm tactics against businesses who were perceived as not loaning enough to the "poor."

      The perception being that big-greedy business was wont to deny the American Dream.

      Those who used this tactic forgot that the Dream should be achieved.

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      • 2 votes
      #4.7 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3207992,"authorDomain":"Catch22"}
      I'm not ignoring them:

      Actually you show very much you are since you still show nothing about PACs - you know Political Action Committees. You know the difference between donations from individual donors and PACs yet you keep repeating just individual donors and ignoring the PACs. Individuals are not even required to report their employment so these numbers are skewed.

      You know that getting money from a PAC is a lot more telling than individuals yet you continue to pretend otherwise. The lobbyists decide where PAC money goes, while individual citizens choose who to give to on their own reasons - forcing individuals to give is illegal.

      I think we must also remember that there were strong-arm tactics against businesses who were perceived as not loaning enough to the "poor."

      Except theres is not much evidence of such tactics or that that this had anything to do with this crisis. Odd that large companies like AIG and Merryl Lynch and other who did not loan a dime to the poor are some how alleged to be caused by this.

      There is no end to the theoretical blame you can spread around, trying to blame this on minority lending simply is not bourne out as a material causal factor.

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      #4.8 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3215248,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

      Here's some vintage 2004 Democratic whine about those GOP meanies trying to over-regulate Fannie/Freddie. Drink up. Maxine Waters, Bill Clay and that idiot Greg Meeks are particularly entertaining.

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      • 5 votes
      #4.9 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:27 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3215965,"authorDomain":"shep999"}

      The Wall Street traders that bought the mortgage products were no babes in the woods. Wall Street writes security standards that parties feel confident in trading all day long. They work very hard to create new financial instruments all the time. Wall Street should not have allowed this.

      Bill,

      Is it not the mortgage originators who securitize mortgages? If not, who does this?

      Did Fannie or Freddie intimidate the banks with revoking their charter for not lending to minorities in equal proportion as white men?

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      #4.10 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:13 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3233487,"authorDomain":"wharrison55"}

      Shep, it's not a question of lending to minorities. It's the demonstrable lowering of underwriting standards and pushing of marginal mortgage products through Fannie and Freddie who set the standards for the secondary market. This isn't even an arguable point for r.e. professionals.

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      • 5 votes
      #4.11 - Tue Sep 30, 2008 9:35 PM EDT
      {"commentId":3238312,"authorDomain":"Catch22"}
      Shep, it's not a question of lending to minorities.

      Exactly, which is why the CRA is irrelevant.

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      • 1 vote
      #4.12 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 9:59 AM EDT
      {"commentId":3250271,"authorDomain":"shep999"}

      Bill,

      We have all heard of the state banking laws that require banks to have branches in minority communities, and that minorities pay higher rates for mortgages than whites http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/weekinreview/04bajaj.html?em ).  It would be interesting to see the demographics on this.  Maxine Waters was surly hooting and hollering about this in regards to giving Franklin Rains the full speed ahead.  I think that the mortgage buying game is about doing your homework and the average white will make a more informed decision than the average minority.  Mortgage marketing is clouded in lots of extraneous disinformation.

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        #4.13 - Wed Oct 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":3197451,"authorDomain":"schnoo"}
        "I should have educated myself more, and I didn't"

        That would be a good t-shirt line, although I'd have to change the 'I's' to 'you's' in order to sell any.

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        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:07 AM EDT
        {"commentId":3197829,"authorDomain":"waynester"}

        The article was going along just fine and then it suddenly beacame about illegal immigration. What the...? And I love the line about the "bottom feeders" (thank God for 'em should be more like it)
        The subject had potential but the "journalists" just couldn't resist turning it into something about intolerance and greed. Pathetic.

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        • 4 votes
        Reply#6 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:28 AM EDT
        {"commentId":3198094,"authorDomain":"waynester"}

        Good related article here.

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        • 3 votes
        Reply#7 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:42 AM EDT
        {"commentId":3207108,"authorDomain":"mdowmdowusa"}

        Wow, this article just amazes me. I've never understood how people trying to get a house think that getting a "zero interest" or "negative amortization" loan is a good deal???!!!!! Now she realizes that she should have educated herself! Dang, it's not like you're buying a pair of shoes. This is a huge financial obligation. When we bought our home, I investigated every type of loan, how much we could realistically afford, the schools and neighborhoods we wanted to live in, the interest rates and point system, etc. So, now that the government is going to be controlling every aspect of our lives, there should be a test, like when you get your driver's license, "do you know what getting a mortgage loan entails?" If you fail, No House for You. Argh :)

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        Reply#8 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
        {"commentId":3215562,"authorDomain":"waynester"}

        I know of a closing attorney who tapes the borrower saying that they understand the terms of the loan, etc. to avoid comebacks.

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        #8.1 - Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:48 PM EDT
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